ISO Master was mentioned as a "trully (sic)" free image editor in this thread earlier. I just checked, and it seems to me that it's "payware":

http://www.littlesvr.ca/isomaster/purchase/

Do you trully reallize that ISO MASTER is under the GPL. Both the Linux and the Windows version I'm not being mean to you but
----READ THE LICENSE !!!!!---- Please, read the license?

I don't want anyone to think that I am making up the fact that it's not illegal to redistribute ISO MASTER if you purchase a copy from the link provided above so I will show you that what I am saying is a fact.

ISO MASTER uses

GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENE - Version 2

GNU means FREE if you don't believe me then go to http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq....lowDownloadFee

and look in the FAQ that I've designated here.

if you scroll down to this question:
Does the GPL allow me to require that anyone who receives the software must pay me a fee and/or notify me? <--this means the writter of the GNU GPL software.)

You will find the following information:

No. In fact, a requirement like that would make the program non-free. If people have to pay when they get a copy of a program, or if they have to notify anyone in particular, then the program is not free. See the definition of free software.

The GPL is a free software license, and therefore it permits people to use and even redistribute the software without being required to pay anyone a fee for doing so.

The man who wrote this software though, does have a right to make you pay.

See the following info. on the same page:
Does the GPL allow me to charge a fee for downloading the program from my site?

Yes. You can charge any fee you wish for distributing a copy of the program. If you distribute binaries by download, you must provide “equivalent access” to download the source—therefore, the fee to download source may not be greater than the fee to download the binary.


TO PUT THE MEGA CLENCHER ON THIS SUBJECT <<Not yelling just emphasizing))

Read this on the same page.

Does the GPL allow me to distribute copies under a nondisclosure agreement?

No. The GPL says that anyone who receives a copy from you has the right to redistribute copies, modified or not. You are not allowed to distribute the work on any more restrictive basis.

If someone asks you to sign an NDA for receiving GPL-covered software copyrighted by the FSF, please inform us immediately by writing to license-violation@fsf.org.

If the violation involves GPL-covered code that has some other copyright holder, please inform that copyright holder, just as you would for any other kind of violation of the GPL.


A nondisclosure agreement would in otherwords mean that you were purchasing a license under a software that would make it illegal for you to redistribute it. IT would be WAREZ <----Illegal))

Since this software is under the GNU GPL you can purchase a copy from this mans site and use it on as many computers as you want.

He probably is doing this licensing thing to scare people into thinking it's illegal to redistribute it because he wants to get as much money for his work as possible, but it's not illegal to redistribute this software.

So Have I found you and this forum a FREEWARE ISO EDITOR?

Yes I HAVE FOUND YOU A FREEWARE ISO EDITOR. I can say this because I took the time to do what I was encouraging others to do from the beginning. I wrote him, talked to him, asked him, gave him ideas. In fact it was me that gave him the idea to charge for it. I did this because a man who sells his time and effort for making a good product should get a good reward. I got the idea from eLive Gem website. eLive Gem is GNU GPL also but just so you'll know I paid that man for his work too. What's more the ISO EDITOR I FOUND IS UNDER THE GNU GPL, or OPENSOURCE.

Consequently I don't blame him for wanting to be paid for the work that he's done. You have to realize that he has made this same software available to many for free for a long while under the GNU GPL in Linux. Since it's still under the GNU GPL in Windows it can be redistributed.

My sugguestion. If those of you who like it and want it are really that poor, team up together to buy a copy from him with all of you pitching together to make up the 20.00.


----My work here is done... All I have left now is COMMENT CLEANUP, or answering responses of those who would like more info...

I've trully done my utmost be of help to this forum. I hope all of you can see this.

Best wishes to all of you.

ZBAND

From the FAQ: (http://tinyurl.com/38qlys)

------------------------
FAQ
Is ISO Master free?

The Linux version is free, but the Windows version is not.
------------------------

While my system configuration link in the sig plainly states that I'm running Windoze, I did not emphasize this relevant point in my inquiry.

For me, ISO Master is NOT free. I'd have to configure a Linux computer and learn how to use Linux in order to run ISO MASTER as a free app. Linux is a fine OS, and much superior to anything M$ offers, but for now that's where I'm stuck.

And I hope one day that you "trully reallize" how glaring mistakes in spelling can make you seem ignorant and your posts less relevant. It's truly a shame when that happens.

On the contrary. It is free. read the license that comes with the demo. The license that comes with the demo is GNU GPL

GNU GPL means FREE!!!

This means that you can purchase a copy from him and redistribute what you get from him and it's not illegal to do so.

The GNU GPL has been applied to this version of the WIN software as well as the Lin software which means free.


P.S. I do understand Lasiter that YOU don't want to pay anything and that you don't consider it TRULLY free unless you can download it use it indefinitely for free and not have to pay him.

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Be careful insulting people lasiter... Even for spelling. If you read the forum rules you will notice rude behavior is a no no. I wasn't being rude to you last night. I was trying to explain that even the demo version that you have to pay for from him is free. I know that this is a contradiction in terms of free, but that's where the GNU GPL comes into play to help everyone.
(((Emphasis>>>Not just in Linux but in Windows DEMO version too.


smile lasiter life is more fun that way....

Sorry for misspelling your name lasitter. It wasn't done purposefully.

I'm sure you mean well, Zband, but since you and the author of ISO Master
seem to have a different understanding of GPL and the licensing
restrictions, I contacted him to see if he could shed some further light on
this subject.

I'm including both my inquiry and his reply, with very little editing for the
sake of editing and readability.

(I posed by questions by sending him an inquiry using
this link provided
on the ISO Master web site.)

"I make donations to many freeware authors and even sponsor specific
features for freeware utilities, and I've taken an interest in ISO
Master as a useful ISO Image editing tool.

"I'm a member of CDFreaks, and I've been following a thread there which
(among other things) discusses the ways of using / licensing ISO Master for
users of different operating systems.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f59/freewar...5/#post2014765

"A user there ("ZBand") claims to have contacted the author of ISO
Master back when it was a Linux-only application, and he seems to be
saying that because it was freeware under Linux, it can't be licensed
("sold") as a Windows application, or that if someone buys the
Windows version, they have the right to redistribute the program for
the free use of other Windows users.

"Since I'm sure that you wouldn't require payment (FAQ) that wasn't owed
you, I would appreciate it if you could review his comments or
refer to a seemingly authoritative document like this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl

"And provide me with a reply that can clear up any confusion about
whether Windows users can use your program for free or redistribute
it freely after just one person pays for it."

---

Hi Charles

Let me try to clear this up for you.

The Linux version is, and always has been, licensed under the GPL v2.
The Windows version has never been released under the GPL.

Though most of the code between the two versions is the same, there are
windows-only parts.

The GPL allows anyone to copy the GPLed code without asking me for
permission. But obviously that only applies to code under the GPL.

Perhaps ZBand is under the impression that the source code for both the
Linux and the Windows versions is the same. In that case he should try
to build it on Windows

Or maybe he got confused by the license in the help/about of the Windows
version. I left the GPL in there because I didn't want to bother writing
my own proprietary license, especially since I expect I'll release the
Windows version under the GPL eventually.

But even if someone thinks that the Windows version is under the GPL
because the About window says so, they still can't distribute it - as
the GPL prohibits distribution of binaries without source code, and I'm
the only one who has the source code.

I am intimately familiar with the GPL, having studied it extensively. So
I'm quite sure I'm in the right.

Cheers,

Andrew

It sucks anyway...

Well switchterry I don't blame you for saying so.

When I first talked to the writter of ISO Master this is one of the things that I brought out to him that the program was far to basic and that he should make it opensource and make it to where others could spread the Image Editor around.

I didn't want to be mean to him in my saying this but if he's going to demand 20.00 from people he should understand that there are other progs out there that do the same thing for 10.00 more and are in more than one way 1000x better than ISO Master. My opinion on what he's doing differs in what he's saying as to the state of his license but if that's the way he wants it then I'll respect it. Let me also be the third in line to comment in that "There ARE far better options than ISO MASTER".

ISO Master will only move up in rank as a viable, usable option if it's free.


As far as the GPL talk before hand let's all let it go as this in my opinion is detracting and sidetracking us from the issue at stake. I will continue to be on the look out for all so as to help everyone here. If anyone has any other sugguestions please let them be known. Since there are currently no known trully freeware ISO Editors then this brings us back to an earlier option.

The usage of freeware programs that can do conversions, extractions, recompilations and the like. One thing I was thinking of is making a cheap little front end for a CD like an autolauncher and putting all of the programs in a folder in the back.
I've seen another programmer do the same before. If you want to know what I mean then go take a look at SilentNight Micro Burner versions 5 & 6. <<<Not Free))


This is simply an approximation that I'm reffering to. Cheap CD autolaunchers are easy to make for faking a front end of a program. You can even make one that looks like a windows based front end if you take the pictures using nothing more than a screen cap. Anyhow if you want to collect together your own favorite freeware progs for doing this, you can then skip over to portableapps.com and look at launchers.
They also have some CD&DVD based progs but they're not going to be anywhere in depth to the nature of there usage and helps compared to this forum.

Comments, questions, concerns...

Well guys,

I just wanted to let you know, I've compiled isomaster for windows. So now you may go forth and....do stuff.....with isos

I dunno how the freeware version of AVS disc creator compares to isomaster though. All I know is that I tried to install it on a friend's vista machine and it crashed spectacularly. AVS Disc creator, not isomaster!

Anyway the page where all the action is at is: http://tech128.googlepages.com

I know you only tried this in XP, but what are the odds it will work with Win2k SP4?

Probably pretty good I'd say. I've run cygwin apps with 0 problems on 2k in the past. 9x is another story however

Hello,

I was just looking for a free ISO Editor as I've found 1 virus in one of the iso file. I hope this is a good methode of cleaning it ;-)

Thanks for your help

Well usually the way to find out what files to remove from the iso would be to extract the contents of the iso with something like izarc or a similar program that handles iso format. Your virus scanner should pop up with a warning when the file(s) that hold the virus are found. Note these files and remove them from the iso.

Of course I would probably take it a step further and scan with some more on-demand scanners like avptool.

Thanks for your reply, I'll do so.

I wanted to point out that with AVS Disc Creator teh larger iso files need to be opened with AVS such as with right click open or double click and it will show all the files that are on teh iso file

I may be a tad late, but there are a few free tools that I use.

One mentioned already is MagicISO, but there is something I wanted to point out about it.
Albeit the demo can only edit images up to 300MB, which seems fairly standard for a demo, the free demo can create ISO images from CDs or DVDs outside the size limitation. In addition to ISO creation, it can convert image formats of all kinds, including BIN/CUE, NRG, and DAA (PowerISO's proprietary compressed format), all outside the 300MB limit. Lastly, it can compress ISO/CUE/MDS/NRG/CCD and CDs/DVDs directly into UIF(Universal Image Format, MagicISO's compressed format), also outside any size limit.

This in itself probably isn't news, but there is another tool I use, MagicDisc, which is freeware distributed by the makers of MagicISO.

MagicDisc is freeware virtual image mounting software that can mount many formats onto virtual cd drives, including ISO, UIF, BIN, CUE, IMG, NRG, CIF, CCD, VCD, FCD, MDF, BWT, MDS, TAO, DAO, CDI, LCD, vaporCD, VC4, NCD and others, many of which I've never even heard of.
Like MagicISO, MagicDisc can also compress existing image files to UIF.

All of the features mentioned above are available freely and legally. I realize that editing capabilities are not offered, and therefore this post falls a little outside the scope of this thread, but I thought I'd mention these tools anyway. Enjoy!

MagicISO
MagicDisc

Well I've had to change my site mostly because google is going to change it to google sites eventually anyway. Kinda sux since it was just indexed in google search after months of trying to get them to add it.

The site is now at http://sites.google.com/site/isomasterforwin32/